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Posted 7 days ago

 

 


I’m looking for advice on how to best handle a ‘distant boss’. If I didn’t attempt to communicate regularly we could go weeks without an exchange. Even our ‘team’ meetings which I scheduled are very short and any other time I try to have a conversation about work or otherwise I get the sense that I’m being bothersome. I perform very well (with no direction) so reviews have been positive but brief. My first instinct is to discuss this with them, but given the situation I’m not sure this is the best way forward. Any advice?

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Rated +1 | Posted 6 days ago

 

woco08, I have a couple thoughts:


1) Are you approaching your boss in his/her communication style? Sometimes connecting is about changing how we say it. There is a great book called: "I'm Stuck, You're Stuck" that could be helpful.


2) Have you had a conversations with your manager about expectations, what s/he needs, likes to be communicated with and what you need? I have found that this really removes assumptions and helps both mgr and employee! A


 

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Rated +2 | Posted 6 days ago

 

How about scheduling a one-on-one? Make a point of having one every week! That's helped my manager and I get to know each other better, improve the work we do together, and it's made me a happier employee, frankly.

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Rated +1 | Posted 6 days ago

 

I agree with Daniela. A 1:1 conversation on a regular basis is key. Even though your manager should take this initiative on his/her own, sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands, especially if it's bothering you.

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Rated 0 | Posted 6 days ago

 

Thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately  1:1s  are not a real option  (I’ve tried), on the rare occasions we discuss anything other than specifics on assignments they are visibly uncomfortable. I haven’t had a meeting to establish expectations; I’m pretty sure they are happy with the status quo so perhaps it is up to me to adjust my expectations. Thanks again ladies!

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Rated 0 | Posted 6 days ago

 

Don't be defeatist, Wocoo8!


Insists on the 1:1s! Maybe ask them in front of someone else, so that it would be awkward to turn you down?

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Rated +2 | Posted 6 days ago

 

woco08 says ...



Thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately  1:1s  are not a real option  (I’ve tried), on the rare occasions we discuss anything other than specifics on assignments they are visibly uncomfortable. I haven’t had a meeting to establish expectations; I’m pretty sure they are happy with the status quo so perhaps it is up to me to adjust my expectations. Thanks again ladies!



For me, when I say expectations - not just the job, sounds like that is fine, but the relationship. You know what they say about "assume". You boss might think the hands off style is what you want.

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Rated 0 | Posted 5 days ago

 

Ann made a good point. There's a possibility your manager believes you like the hands-off approach. In reality, you probably like a combination of hands-off and hands-on. Sounds like suggesting a 1:1 is still your best bet. Show real interest in it and how can they deny you?



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Rated 0 | Posted 5 days ago

 

One of the best tools you have is your instinct.  Use it to your advantage.   What is the outcome you want from the exchange?  How will it serve you?  What benefits/results will it provide your employer?     What other methods could be used to communicate; email, voicemail, notes?    During reviews use the opportunity to ask questions to get clarity.  You are a self-starter.  Self-starters know that if one way doesn't work, there is another.   


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Rated 0 | Posted 4 days ago

 

I just saw this topic this morning.  Fits right in with a situation I have with my manager.  We have developed a "communications rift" that was also difficult to approach him about.  He is offsite most of the time.  I did what our company calls a "skip level" meeting to talk to his manager, not to get my manager in trouble, but to let him know there is a communication problem.  I was opened to the advice the manager gave, but a little put off when I was told I should "train" my manager with his communication flaws and management deficiencies.  I even spoke to another manager who is outside of the company but knows my manager, and told them the advice I was given and he was even surprised that I was told to "train" my manager.


This discussion was held weeks ago and the manager I spoke to has obviously spoken to my manager.  My manager wants to have a meeting with me this morning to discuss our "communications rift".  I will take some of the suggestions I saw here and see how things go this morning. 

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Rated 0 | Posted 4 days ago

 

Let us know how things go, Littlebit. It's always a little tricky when you skip a manager to talk to his.

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Rated +1 | Posted 3 days ago

 

Just an update.  The meeting with my manager went well.  With some of the topics that were discussed it was obvious that his mangaer has spoken to him.  My company is very good with doing a "skip level" when you approach them in a professional manner.  Overall the meeting seemed to be productive, but time will tell.  We both discussed what kinds of communications we would like and where they may have failed in the past.  Concerns for the project in the area where I am a team leader were also discussed which I hope he takes back to his manager since we are in a recompete year.

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Rated +1 | Posted 3 days ago

 

Well, this is an interesting topic.  I tried all of the above (boss, bosses boss, bosses bosses boss, CEO, CFO for HR who eventually sent a lawyer to meet with me) for over 2 years and finally time improved the situation somewhat, but I never got the 1:1s.  I believe bosses are dis-empowering their employees when they block communications and it happens all too often.  Eventually, I had to deal with the legal department and that seemed to soften the communications issues a little.  Sometimes, it's just not a good match and we all must do what we have to inorder to improve our work environment, whether that is going to another company when all else fails in a 360 degree circle, or except the status quo.  Best wishes to all who deal with "Distant Bosses" and stay empowered, as well as doing what is right for you and the employer.

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 days ago

 

CAD says ...



Well, this is an interesting topic.  I tried all of the above (boss, bosses boss, bosses bosses boss, CEO, CFO for HR who eventually sent a lawyer to meet with me) for over 2 years and finally time improved the situation somewhat, but I never got the 1:1s.  I believe bosses are dis-empowering their employees when they block communications and it happens all too often.  Eventually, I had to deal with the legal department and that seemed to soften the communications issues a little.  Sometimes, it's just not a good match and we all must do what we have to inorder to improve our work environment, whether that is going to another company when all else fails in a 360 degree circle, or except the status quo.  Best wishes to all who deal with "Distant Bosses" and stay empowered, as well as doing what is right for you and the employer.



CAD, could you elaborate on how the legal department at your company got involved and what they did to improve communication between you and your managers?