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Sarah Palin: Why You Like/Hate Her
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Posted about 1 month ago All right, one of the most popular articles on WomenCo. lately is an opinion piece submitted by a user (but written by someone else) called "Why aren't women furious about Sarah Palin?" There have been many, many comments on that article, but I'd love to move the discussion to a more interactive, easy-to-read location. So let's hear all your Sarah Palin commentary here. Remember that everyone is encouraged to share their own opinion and expected to be respectful of others'. Perhaps we'll learn something about ourselves, women in government, and U.S. politics in general as we continue the discussion! Daniela
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| Posted about 1 month ago I don't "hate" Sarah Palin, I just don't want her to be Vice President. She may have talents and abilities, but she doesn't have APPROPRIATE experience or judgment. Take foreign affairs, for example: Alaska borders Russia. Joe Biden is chairman of the Senate foreigh relations committee. Why are these contrasts so hard to understand? Her gender has nothing to do with it. Her family life has nothing to do with it. I personally do not agree with her stand on any issue, but I respect those who feel differently.The last 8 years have done a lot of damage to this country. The last thing we need is more of the same. The possibility that this woman could end up in the oval office terrifies me. I don't want a potential president who thinks only in black and white. I'm not interested in voting for a pit bull, with or without lipstick. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey mom (or a nice guy you'd like to have a beer with), but this is not a qualification to hold one of the most poweful positions on earth. When it comes to the welfare of this country, and the implications for the rest of the world, there's nothing wrong with being a little "elitist". Understanding of the law and the workings of government, a firm grasp of the complexities of foreign affairs in a difficult time, respect for the Constitution are just a few qualities that are needed. Sorry, she just doesn't measure up. Imagination. . .is the power that enables us to empathise with humans whose experiences we have never shared. (J.K. Rowling) |
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| Posted about 1 month ago She may have experience in leadership, but I just don't think she is prepared to deal with what would come with being a VP. She seems like a "deer in headlights" even now. The best things I've heard her say are slams against the Obama/Biden side during the convention, and that just turns me completely away. Obama chose someone who had strengths/experience that others thought he lacked...that showed wisdom & his willingness to address this, rather than igore it. I feel that McCain did the opposite, he chose someone that is exactly like he is in many ways. ~“I love debate. I don't expect anyone just to sit there and agree with me, that's not their job.”-A.Whitecomb
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| Posted about 1 month ago I like her! Why?? Because she hasn't learned to talk all that political talk that basically dances around issues and is like chips, leaves you still hunger and offers nothing but empty calories. She's being as honest and upfront as you can be in politics. Joe Biden has made numerous mistakes from what MSNBC and fox have shown in regard to the war, what he did not vote for, even though he said he did, etc.... Sarah Palin on the other hand made no mistakes. She's green as far as the white house is concerned, but honestly I feel all Obama does is showboat. Seen that, heard it all before and was disappointed when past presidents ran the same type of campaign. Funny,Biden mentioned that he and Obama will not deliver everything they are selling, Wow! how unusual. Palin at least said, "We are not changing what we are promising" I like her and I hope people give her a chance to show her colors, we've given enough men to many chances to screw up this county, why not break that pattern. You know what they say about insanity, " You keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result" Just my opinion Visitor |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Actually, what Palin said was that she had only been at this for five weeks and she hadn't made any promises. No President can gurantee that all their promises will be met despite how hard they try there is still a House and Senate, Presidents do not have supreme rule (despite what Bush and his cronies appear to think). Not to mention I think her so called "straight talk" is insulting as though American citizens are incapable of taking the time out to learn the inner workings of their government. I don't need someone trying to relate to me by talking to me like I am remedial, what we all need is someone who is intelligent, integral, humble, strong, experienced, etc. Being the mother of five, a gun owner, and the govenor of 9,000 people does not make you a suitable canidate for the leadership of 350,000,000 people, and if this sad last attempt at winning votes has convinced America that she is maybe we are a country of politically retarded citizens. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"
Also, the insanity quote intrestingly enough was one of Einstein's sayings and commonly used for helping people with addiction is not however the true definition of insanity recognized by the courts...(Just an interesting fact that the boyfriend and I investigated the other night) |
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| Posted about 1 month ago victoriarkelly says ...
Well said! Imagination. . .is the power that enables us to empathise with humans whose experiences we have never shared. (J.K. Rowling) |
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| Posted about 1 month ago katiej says ...
Even A Bird Without Wings Yearns To Fly. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago She is not someone anyone can hate, even though not all of us mothers have the time to attend a soccer game on the weekends because we are working our second jobs, usually. She is failing her children if she thinks she can do both; raise them first and then run for president or vice pres if she wants. Let's face it, I was a teenage mom and it mainly happened because my mom was not there for me. How are we to believe that she is any less to blame for her daughters dilemma than any other negligent parent, I don't think so! Ms. Palin PLEASE FINISHING RAISNG YOUR CHILDREN, the office will still be there when you have all grown up! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I don't hate or like her. I think she needs a lot more education and experience before she can lead a state other than Alaska, let alone our great Country. I definelty don't see her as our President if she is called upon to take that responsibility if anything happens to the President. Absolutely not ready for that. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I agree with all of you who oppose Palin (and McCain for that matter)...... My thinking is IF God forbid those two win -- and for some crazy reason McCain DIES..... Palin is who gets to run this country. And yanno, I'm just not willing to take that chance. I don't hate her. but I sure don't like anything she has said so far. There are more intelligent women posting here! And I like it.... you ladies have great insight! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago katiej says ...
I second that. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago katiej says ...
I second that. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I think she is great, a breath of fresh air, and of course a woman. It is amazing to me that so many people think that Obama has all this experience. He has only been an U.S. Senator for 3 years. Come on now, what makes you think he can run a country? In his short career, he has no experience with budgets, directing, and running a state. What has Obama done, of yes, he was a community organizer. Thats a lot of experience. As far as Sarah being a mother and raising her children, I have had to work 2 jobs for a very long time, does that mean I was not a good mother? Why is it that we only hear Obama and Biden speak about the middle class, what happened to the low-income class? Don't they exist in their world? Biden needs to get his facts straight, Kathies resturant has been closed for over 20 years, FDR did not speak on TV to the nation during the stock market crash of 1929 Herbert Hoover was presendent , the TV not enven invented yet. Biden stated when he was running in the primaries against Obama the he was not ready to lead the country and we don't need a president who would need "on the job training". Biden also stated he wouldn't be interested in being vice president, boy how things changed since he was mentioned on the short list.
One last thing for all you Obama supporters, DON'T FORGET THE BRADLEY EFFECT!!!!!!!!
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| Posted about 1 month ago ewinslow33 says ...
yes, I agree. i cannot see her as president. She needs many more years of experince and education in mainstream USA before she shouls ever be considered. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Palin is not qualified. She has a problem with stating facts. She is not a role model, and in my opinion does not have the intellect to make the right decisions to solve this nations problems. She will not gain the respect of the other nations because she does not have the right knowledge for the position, and does not know how to give respect. She has no dignity, and in my opinion is an insecure trouble maker. Ms. Palin is easily influenced, and does not understand diversity. I do not hate her, nor do I like her, she has to learn alot more to gain my respect. One day she may have the wisdom to lead in the right direction. Lets face it. Alaska is a rich state with plenty of opportunity, it has been that way. I have parents who lived in Alaska during the 1950's, and my older brother was born in Fairbanks. I think she would be a good PTA president. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago ewinslow33 says ...
I ditto this comment. It's not about love or hate. She is simply not qualified to be VP on these USA. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago As the mother of four daughters, I have raised them with the idea that they can be and do anything that they are willing to work hard enough to be. The important part of succeeding in this endeavor is to maintain who you really are: Your moral values, ethics, love of family and friends, love of country and most importantly, love of God. Sarah Palin has succeeded on all points here. She has proven to be one of "us"--the working mother who admits that we are not always perfect, that we make mistakes along the way and she isn't ashamed to openly love her daughter who made a mistake. I taught my daughters that a mistake is only a mistake if you don't face it head on, learn from it and don't allow it to stop you from achieving your ultimate goal. Sarah Palin is following the same guidelines. Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air in a world of overly critical "successful" women who cannot tolerate someone with her values who is willing to open up her life for examination by the whole world. I think that she is and will continue to be an asset to John McCain as well as this country and her family. I feel that she is more than capable of tackling the position of Vice President of this country! Why is that our liberal news media has to mock and make fun of a women who isn't afraid to admit that she is a Christian? What I fail to understand is the constant attempt by the liberal media to tear her down, break her and her entire family. As far as I am concerned, a better question for the media to consider is the following: What makes Barack Obama experienced enough to think he should be President of this country? Why isn't the liberal media sharing information regarding his true connections and affiliations? Why is the media NOT talking about the law suit filed against Barack Hussien Obama questioning whether or not he is actually a legal citizen of this counry? Quit attacking Sarah Palin and start looking for the positive attributes and what she has to offer this country!! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I really think all this talk about Palin is hilarious..Just as hilarious as she is. All this nonsense of she is a good mother and represents "us" moms.. yadda yadda. That has nothing to do with her duties as VP unless she will be Changing diapers, cooking meals and cleaning house. Not saying that is all us mothers do but it is the primary of what we do. With that said.. Did any one catch the speech when Sarah was asked about the cause of global warming and how she plans to fix it?? Her response was " What is causing it is not the issue , we need to figure a way to fix the problem so it doesn't get any worse." Ha ha ha my gut is going to burst!! How can you fix the problem if you don't know what to fix?? ...Say my car won't start..Hmm I guess it doesn't matter what is causing it to not turn over but we must fix it..duhhh sorry Sarah but nothing is going to happen with that plan.. Am I the only one that thinks she is out to lunch? Another comment by Palin was "We will take our troops out of Iraq and bring the soldiers home, we don't need their oil we have plenty of that up in Alaska." Ha ha she should be a comedian not in politics! My questions to Sarah on that comment are... So where are you going to refine it? Surely not in beautiful Alaska..Think of the beautiful scenery destroyed because when you refine the oil their is unusable toxic sludge left over what will you do with it?? Dump it in the ocean?? Ship it to Canada?? Nope they won't fall for that plus the cost would be far to expensive ..well I guess we could always Print up some more money..what could that hurt?. Also each well that is drilled contaminates the ground, plants, Animals and water around it. I know this for a fact I have seen it first hand.. My husband drills wells in Alberta, Canada. ( one of the other sources for Americas oil and gas) Alaska you think your Caribou are in danger now..wait untill Palin and McCain get their slimy hands on Alaska. It will look like Fort Mcmurray Alberta! Google it. Oh and as for the brain washed comments of Mrs. juanitacolvin, Barack Obama is an American Citizen He was born in Honolulu Hawaii Look it up. And yeah Sure Obama might not have been blown to bits like McCain but he can learn the ropes and change is good..McCain knows what he knows and there is no learning new things for him. You are just as bad as Sarah with your false statements and poorly researched facts. All power is from within and therefore under you controll.
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| Posted about 1 month ago I like Sarah Palin because she can stand toe to toe with a Senator who's been in Washington for over 25 years and hold her own. I like Sarah Palin because she knows we need someone in Washington who's not been drinking the koolaid. I like Sarah Palin because she knows that tax cuts for wealthy companies is not making the rich richer, it's giving the poor jobs. By the way, ever notice that the CEOs we all love to hate get their bonuses no matter what the profit margin looks like? Think about the company you work for.. what happens when profit margins go down? YOU lose your bonus. YOU lose your raise. YOU might even lose your job. Giving a big, rich corporation a tax break gives them a bigger profit margin and YOU might get to keep that job, YOU might even get a raise, and YIPPEE you may get a bonus! The Republicans don't hate the poor & middle class, we just know that the poor and middle class don't create JOBS. And we want everyone to have JOBS. Get the Democrats to admit who carries the biggest tax burden in this country - the RICH and the BIG EVIL CORPORATIONS. And the Democrats want to make them pay even more. And you wonder why companies are outsourcing jobs to other countries. You only have yourselves and your tax-the-big-corporations philosophy to blame. It's easy to think the Democrats, with all their promises, care more about you. But it's the ones that want to teach you to fish rather than just handing you today's catch that really care about you. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago You go girl. The republicians have always been for free enterprise. Its the democrats who want to make a socialist country out of the US. Do all middle class democrats want everything handed to them. What about your pride and what if your father made his life confortable and make a good living. Would you want him taxed more so it could benefit you? He worked hard all his life to have what he has and now Obama want to take that away from him. DON' T FORGET THE BRADLEY EFFECT. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Just because Palin is a woman or less than 2 years in the government does not make her quality to be VP or President for that matter. She keeps repeating the same words and she won't speak to the media (except for those the support her) because of her lack of knowledge in every aspect of life. Her poor judgment and lack of experience will bring this country down even more. She didn't even report her 'per diem' wages living just a few miles away which I believe she doesn't deserve. And in less than 2 years she is worth over 1 million??? That also raised some questions. Maybe stealing from Alaska?? The Bridge to nowhere is a big fat lie. Her conservative views do not appeal to me either. I have a choice. My choice is my body. She can't take that away from me or anyone. Beware if we get someone like her running this country. Get the facts before you VOTE. Those Republicans are desperate to win because they will lose big time this year. But if you want more of the same, same 8 years of failed policies, more debts, bankruptcy, foreclosures, no jobs,etc. then vote for Palin. That's what you are going to get. Socialist at this point sounds more appealing to me than living in this country run by those republicans. They have completely destroyed U.S. reputation around the world. We will all get kill if we continue with those ridiculous foreign policy of bombing and invading countries without any reason. Remember, everything that goes up must come down, eventually. That's what happening here. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago mkelly says ...
Welcome to WomenCo. I respect your opinion, but I respectfully disagree. I think we all are for free enterprise- that is the basis of our economic system. The ABUSE of free enterprise is largely what got us into the economic crisis we are in now. Traditionally, Republicans support individualisml helping yourself. Democrats do not oppose that, they just think our government has a responsibility to help the more vulnerable in our society. No one really wants the US to be a "socialist country". (But there are worse things-- don't confuse socialism with communism.) I am a "middle class democrat" and so was my father. My father got his first job when he was 8 years old, worked all his life, built a successful business and provided for his family. He sent me to private schools but voted for every education levy on the ballot because he believed that all children are the future of the country. I work full time and do not expect any handouts. I do not mind some of my tax money going to people who aren't as blessed as I am. The Bush administration cut taxes to the wealthiest individuals then went on a spending binge unlike any in our history. The Iraq war is not paying for itself. Obama only wants to level the playing field a little- by suggesting a tax increase ONLY for people earning more than $250K a year. This is not taking everything away from anyone. Don't forget the Great Depression. Imagination. . .is the power that enables us to empathise with humans whose experiences we have never shared. (J.K. Rowling) |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I think Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air, sincere,honest and just what we need in congress.... |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I haven't read all of the posts, so my apologies if I'm being redundant here, but honestly think of all the stressors in Palin's life right now. Many of us are mothers, are going through this and that....now imagine being responsible ALSO for the welfare of an entire country. I think that we will do a disservice to Palin (not to mention the rest of the US population....ok, the world) if we vote McCain into office--subsequently making her VP. Breath of fresh air, blah, blah, yada, yada....doesn't change the facts. The facts are she's more green behind the ears than a Leprechaun, she doesn't do well under pressure, and well, there's just no way I can see her making critical decisions! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago First of all, I don't hate Sarah Palin or John McCain. I just don't like their politics! They are both comical, and for people to even consider putting them in the White House is absolutely horrifying! God forbid John McCain dies and this woman has to run the country, we are all doomed. Sarah Palin has a "shoot now, ask questions later approach to this war", that should have never happened. She knows nothing about foreign policy, economics, or anything else as far as I can tell. She does however have a great ability to avoid serious questions and just simply blow off an answer. People, please look at the state that our country is in right now! Ask yourself can we afford to have these two people running this country, only to end up in worse conditions than we are now. Sarah Palin supports whatever John McCain believes, who believes in George Bush's policies. WE CANNOT AND WILL NOT ACCEPT ANOTHER 4 TO 8 YEARS OF THE SAME!!! People do your research, she is qualified to do what she does in Alaska not for the United States of America. Just because she "can see Russia" from her house doesn't justify nor qualify her to know anything about foreign policy! When asked, " What do you know about foreign policy, she said we trade with Russia and Canada", what is that?! WAKE UP PEOPLE, THIS IS VERY SERIOUS!!!!! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago How can Sarah Palin run a country when she doesn't even know what's going on in her own home?! It seems that they are trying to ignore the fact that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant and she has another child with Downs Syndrome, I would think that her first priorities would be to her family! If she was paying attention to her daughter like a mother should, maybe her daughter wouldn't be pregnant. A teenage girl or boy needs their parents, while her husband is out getting DWI's who's home with the kids? Please stop focusing on the fact that she's a woman! Male of female, if a candidate had the same views as Sarah Palin I would feel the exact same way.....gender or race shouldn't be an issue. The person that's more qualified to fill the position and capable of getting the USA out of this travesty, should be what matters! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I do not agree with most everything she is about. I feel if she became VP she would be this blank chalk board just waiting to be taken advantage of. Granted she is just this innocent thing that gives her this new "fresh air" about politics is nice. But would you want me in as your VP? I do voluntary work as an organizer and am quite friendly, know a few a things about politics, am very politically active. I didn't think so either because I'd be clueless when I get in the real world with lobbyists just waiting to take advantage of me. I don't understand why some people just can't see this... |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Okay...first I have already gone on record under two other posts that I do not really like ANY of the candidates. Regarding Palin specifically I will say this: Any woman that can simultaneously: 1---raise 5 kids, 2---run a whole State, 3---stand up for her beliefs under such a critical eye and not waver, 4---consistently look past the blatant sexist remarks which imply that a man could be a better choice based solely on the fact she is a mother, 5---AND stand up to the "good ole boy" politics and make remarkable changes already as a governor....without taking handouts from special interest groups.....................That says quite a lot about her moxie and her abilities! If she was a man, the children issue would be a non-issue, because that is what nannies are for...or wives---at least to the narrow-minded. She has a husband and a family that is a huge support. There are equal rights for men as well as women. If her husband steps in and actually fathers his children that also would impress me greatly. All too often "raising the children" has silently been an almost exclusive part of a mother's job description which is wrong. Re: Special needs child....so what! It is about time that as a country we look at these children as part of our society and not just a silent minority. If she successfully changes views and the how special needs children are treated that is huge. If any of the other candidates had a special needs child would it be an issue? No. Humor...yes she has one! Does that count against her? Apparently for some people it seems to be an issue. How would you respond to such a dismissal on the basis that you are a woman? If she was bold and simply responded as a man would traditionally she would be branded a shrew, or another less pretty slang word. Hillary has came up against that wall and that is exactly how she came off. It is a sad world where a woman must relay on humor and wit rather than be allowed to speak plainly and bluntly, as a man would. Do I agree with her? Not on every issue. Is there a candidate that I agree 100% with? No. Regarding her pro-choice stance I applaud her standing for what she believes in, and that she lives what she teaches which is more than what some of the other candidates can say. On a personal level I believe it is a non-issue. The human race will not move backwards. This is something which no amount of breast beating, emotional screaming, governmental hogwash, or religious misconceptions will ever change. Choice is something our forefathers had the insight to make a integral part of our country. Woman have fought hard to be heard, to have opinions, and have choices. That will never change. It will remain a little controversy which will always try to deflect what should be the real issues. On a sexist level....nobody has made statements about the Armani or high label suits the men are wearing...and yes---they are writing them off as business expenses. Why shouldn't she? It is not a hidden fact that all the male candidates have "people" that pick out their clothes, adjust schedules for hair appointments and manicures, suggest appropriate colors and attire---so why would it be so shocking to find that she does as well? This being even a topic at all should be embarrassing. Re: Palin's abilities to lead...is there any proof that she can't? She has very clearly made BIG financial changes during her VERY short time in her positions in Alaska. That is huge. Had any other candidate made such far-reaching accomplishments in such a short period of time? That speaks volumes. I feel it actually shows my daughter that ANYTHING really IS possible. Isn't that what America is about? Biden? Yes he was a single father...but he had help...he was NOT on his own. Was being a father something which cost him votes...no. Has he been consistent during his political life? No. Somewhere it is STILL echoing in the air..."I will never be vice president." As if that title was far beneath him....until now? Perhaps some little perks were tossed his way to help him change his mind? Of course, do not forget that any campaign $ he does not spend e gets to keep. A perk they all get....and there is a lot of money being tossed his way. Obama? I keep waiting for him to lose it during some discussion and announce, "My momma can beat yo momma's butt" since she is one of his top adviser's. I know that comes across as crass---but hey---HE said she is one of his advisers. And hey...lay off that deep purple lipstick---it just is not the right shade. You need to get better peeps! McCain? If I hear "My Friends...and When I was a prisoner..." again....I will scream. Don't get me wrong. I am glad he has friends...and I am proud that he served our country. Many of us have served our country. I did. I wonder if he had the same problem that I did when I finished my tour of duty. Every college in this country is "allowed" to determine what (if any) college credits they will give you for your "valuable" military education. Our government does not require colleges to give us ANY credit. Imagine my shock when my Jr College wanted to give me ONLY credit for "PE" ...because that means I would have to repeat all the classes I took while serving my country....so as always it boils down to money. My "valuable" military training which I was told was the equivalent to a BS...is only "BS"...why am I not surprised that they somehow failed to put that is writing? I will vote for the person that changes that.... Makes colleges accept our military education as equivalent to "something" more than PE for all the sweat, tears, and sleepless nights cramming the same content I would have had 4 years to study in a college...into a brutal 14 months WHILE at the same time actually doing the job AND protecting our country...and we HAD to pass....nothing less was acceptable. Following our "valuable " education we actually performed that job every day until our tour of duty was over. It was a test of fire. I see kids all over the college campus whining about this or that minor concern and then off to a party. My four year tour of duty did not offer those perks. ....but HEY I got credit for PE!!! SO if you have kids going over seas in the military, putting their lives on the line for you, don't you think they should actually get "Credit" for what they learn? Perhaps now that SO may candidates have children in the military that will change?? I can only hope. McCain has not let us forget his credit to our country....what about the rest of us?
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