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Seriously. Leaving the toilet seat up all the time is gross. Is it really that hard to put it down?

I think it all depends on the way you were raised and who you've lived with since. It's all force of habit. I had male roommates in college, so I got used to keeping it up - now I have female roommates, and I'm getting used to being considerate again. Don't be so hard on men we are just creatures of habit.

I had a German boyfriend once and apparently German men are trained to pee sitting down! At first I made fun of him but he looked at me straight faced and said, "we all do, its more hygenic. Germans think its gross when American men stand and miss."

I think the Germans are totally on to something!

Having lived with a girlfriend and in co-ed living establishments, I've found that a reasonable woman will do half of the seat work. I put it up, she puts it down and vice versa. I'm not sure why it's any one gender's responsibility.

German mothers must all be part of http://mapsu.org/

I hate touching the seat because usually some other man has peed on it... much easier to leave up and use foot to put up...

omg.. are women still bitching about this topic.. they're men.. unless their mothers beat it into them to raise the seat (and wipe it of after late night in the dark visits) they'll never do it. the same with every other 'considerate' aspect.... it's also oe reason why i try to date only men who had older sisters.. that training aspect is critical ;)

We're having a urinal installed in our master bedroom so we no longer have this problem.

Wow Will that's extremely considerate :) Don't the europeans have some lavatory solution to this...

1. Urine is sterile, so the "more hygienic" argument doesn't fly.
2. Why is it a man's job to move the toilet seat up and down?
3. Men are not monkeys.

3. Men are totally monkeys. We've trained you to do lots of things :o)

from a medical journal:

In 1975, one of the founders of Miles Laboratories, Dr. A. H. Free, published his book Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice, in which he remarked that not only is urine a sterile body compound (purer than distilled water), but that it is now recognized that urine contains literally thousands of compounds. Among the urine constituents mentioned in Dr. Free's treatise is a list of nutrients that will knock your socks off. Here's just a few...

Alanine, Arginine, Ascorbic acid, Allantoin, Amino acids, Bicarbonate, Biotin, Calcium, Creatinine, Cystine, DHEA, Dopamine, Epinephrine, Folic acid, Glucose, Glutamic acid, Glycine, Inositol, Iodine, Iron, Lysine, Magnesium, Manganese, Melatonin, Methionine, Nitrogen, Ornithane, Pantothenic acid, Phenylalaline, Phosphorus, Potassium, Proteins, Riboflavin, Tryptophan, Tyrosine, Urea, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12, Zinc/

Stories have been told of individuals who have both lived and died by being trapped in places without food and water for days. Those that survived did so because they drank their own urine, those that perished did not. The ones that died probably could not overcome the mis-informed thoughts that urine is a waste product of the body. It's not. It's just a substance the body secretes that contains elements not needed at the time.

Despite what you may have been led to believe about urine, pharmaceutical companies have grossed billions of dollars from the sale of drugs made from urine constituents. Research is happening every day in labs attempting to isolate specific elements of urine so they can create new drugs and patent the substances. For instance, Pergonal is a fertility drug made from human urine. 2002 sales of this drug were reported at $855 million while it costs a patient $1400 a month to consume. Urokinase, a urine ingredient, is used in drug form and sold as a miracle blood clot dissolver for unblocking coronary arteries. Urea, medically proven to be one of the best moisturizers in the world, is packaged in expensive creams and lotions. Take the M out of Murine eye drops and what do you have? Yep. It's made from carbamide - another name for synthetic urea.

getze said:

1. Urine is sterile, so the "more hygienic" argument doesn't fly.
2. Why is it a man's job to move the toilet seat up and down?
3. Men are not monkeys.

Toilets originally did NOT have a seat. They were benches with holes. The "seat", an addition, was added for women to put down and be more comfortable. So technically, ladies, we are supposed to put it down, not the other way around!

MakiWulf said:

My only toilet seat complaint is getting up in the middle of the night and sitting down....to a wet bottom! But I have taught my children (2 boys 2 girls) to keep the toilet seat and lid closed for 2 reasons - 1. so the cat stays out of the toilet, and 2. So it is the same way every time anyone goes to use it.

I have also taught all of them to clean up after themselves because everyone misses a bit at times, we just have to be respectful of others and "If you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and wipe the seatie!" I know it's a bit corny, but the kids remember it!

Ugh the wet seat! yuck! Women definely leave a wet seat too when they hover.