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Lessons Learned: The Very, Very Odd Interview
Ever been in an interview that struck you as... odd? Erin tells about hers.
Erin Geld | WomenCo.
May 11, 2008
Yesterday, I accepted a job as a third grade teaching assistant at a wonderful San Francisco K-8 school. It feels incredible to have something lined up for next year and to have made my first step forward into a chosen career. However, as described in my last column, I only arrived at it after a long and looping walk, which had infinite little detours along the way.
Each time I applied for a job, I either revised an older cover letter, or wrote a new one from scratch. I did my best to make them as personable and winning as possible. I took about three hours to write three paragraphs, and put a lot of emotional pressure on, convincing myself I am the best possible person to be assistant editor for the catalog at the San Francisco Clock Museum.
After three months and forty applications, I had about three interviews. One was on the phone, which I botched due to my hearing loss and understandable phone anxiety. Another failed because I overdressed in a gorgeous suit at a loosey-goosey ad agency where everyone wore khakis.
One job I actually snagged proved to be the most bizarre detour, and possible journalism gold. It’s quite a long and involved story, as I went all to the depths of the Bay Area peninsula and job-hunting desperation, and back. Please bear with me. There are lessons to be learned.
The interview begins
The job listing was for an “entry-level account executive” at SF Marketing Group, found on Craigslist. The listing looked much like others for marketing firms, except it insisted no experience was necessary. I heard back from them a mere two days after I applied, which, while thrilling, was unusual. There were a few other strange things: their website was shoddy and vague, they had written “Dear erin” – my name in sloppy lowercase. But, hey, a job is a job!
The first interview took place in a tiny office, of which much of the building was still in construction. It was preceded by quite a bit of paperwork, requiring some vague non-disclosure signatures, and oddly, a commitment to remain for the duration of the second-round interview. The first interview was with the company’s CEO, a tall, stocky man with a heavy accent. It took about ten minutes, and though nervous, I did alright. Many of the questions were about my ability to work with people, whether I was outgoing, competitive. I only stumbled when he asked me the difference between direct and indirect marketing, which I had to admit, I did not know about. However, no matter. I was invited for a second interview! It would be from 11 to 5 pm, and I would be shadowing an account executive on a telecom account. High profile! I felt pretty good.

seabrownthree
6 months ago
414 comments
Yeah, I had an experience in Dallas, Texas, where I answered an advert for a receptionist. When I arrived all professionally dressed and ready for the interview, I was told to go into a room where the interview would take place and wait. When I got into the room, there were about six other women sitting in straight-backed chairs grouped in front of a television, all looking rather confused. Now, I knew that was no way to conduct an interview, and came back out of the room demanding an explanation. It turns out that it was a get-rich quick scheme that was promising that I would own a yacht within thirty days. I left, to the stunned surprise of the people in the office.
seabrownthree
6 months ago
414 comments
Yeah, I had an experience in Dallas, Texas, where I answered an advert for a receptionist. When I arrived all professionally dressed and ready for the interview, I was told to go into a room where the interview would take place and wait. When I got into the room, there were about six other women sitting in straight-backed chairs grouped in front of a television, all looking rather confused. Now, I knew that was no way to conduct an interview, and came back out of the room demanding an explanation. It turns out that it was a get-rich quick scheme that was promising that I would own a yacht within thirty days. I left, to the stunned surprise of the people in the office.
Dleo10
7 months ago
4 comments
I too have shared this same experience! However, my experience took place in the South Side of Milwaukee, which just so happens to be considered the "hood"! It was not only devastating to stand there while many people told us to leave immediately, or they had no time or that they were sick of "us people" always coming around to bother them, it was also scary!! I thought the company was pretty shady from my initial meeting and immediate respone to my resume as well, but it was nice to know that I most likely had an offer on the back burner if absolutely necessary. I could not make it through the entire 9-5 interview though and bailed right before lunch. It has made for quite a story among my peers, but I am so happy to know so many others had been as disappointed and ultimately deceived much as I was.
DianaW
7 months ago
174 comments
Best advice from this is to google and search the BBB for prospective employers before you even go to the interview. I had an experience recently that taught me a similar lesson.
Melanie
7 months ago
2 comments
My mother lives in a nice townhouse. She told me one day that she often sees a white van pull into the townhouse parking lot and go straight for the back of the complex. She says that several young people get out of the van and start knocking on doors. She has never answered the door when they knock on hers, thank goodness. Her neighbor has Alzheimer's disease and she recently had to move to a retirement home. But let me tell you what happened before she moved. I had visited Mom after work and left her home around 6:30 p.m. I noticed that the neighbor was talking to a young woman standing in her doorway. The young woman had a clipboard in her hand. It concerned me because (I'll call her Ms. Jones) Ms. Jones frequently will buy things on her credit card and run up a bill. I wondered what this young lady was doing. I went on my way, but had to return to my Mom's later that night. I arrived around 10:30 pm. THE LADY WITH THE CLIPBOARD WAS STILL THERE! I couldn't imagine what they would have to discuss for 4 HOURS. They were standing by Ms. Jones' car when I went inside. I said "hello, is everything alright?" to Ms. Jones and she said everything was OK. I can't help but think she was a target, and she was probably a victim too. I also felt for the girl with the clipboard. I didn't see any unknown car. I went inside and called Ms. Jones' daughter, who is a member of the Police Force, so she could make sure all was well. When these things happen, both the seller and the buyer become victims.
JerryJ
7 months ago
8 comments
I think the biggest lessons learned here is that we must tune in to and respond to our instincts!
Empress
7 months ago
2 comments
I had the same expierience in Hayward with paradigim/ red line marketing.
the only difference was they claimed to be contracted by D.A.R.E. america and were satnding outside of a grocery store in san ramon. It's a trip ow a little creative wording can fool so many people...lol you live and you learn.
dandelionpatch
7 months ago
4 comments
I had a similar experience with Cutco while in school. The job pitch was that you would be given a list of referrals for people who were interested in buying the product and make commissions on any sales. Then after you had been trained you were sent to your family and friends just to get practice presenting. When you returned they expected a list of referrals pressured from your friends and family. This was the list of people who had supposedly expressed an interest in the product. Then you were to call them and tell them that their friend or family member had told you to call them and show them the product. You were to pressure each person who agreed to meet with you for a list of family and friends contact information. At this point I resigned. I was very angry about being lied to and not at all interested in trying to manipulate my friends and family for profit.
tmartin1988
7 months ago
4 comments
I have to say i got chills reading this. the exact same thing happened to me with a local Baltimore/Towson Marketing company. i found the job posting on monster.com and it had said in clear english that "there was no dood-to-door sales involved". When i was thrown out into this expeerience i did not know what i was supposed to do. The whole time i was being told what a great oppertunity this would be and that it was a great career oppertunity for me. By the end of the day, we finished up by 9:30pm to be exact, i was exhausted and wasnt offered the job, o no i was told i would start on monday. i later told them that i would not be starting and left it at that. the following week however my cell phone number had somehow made its way around the office and i was recieving odd text messages for me to join them in bowling and join them at dinner. Needless to say they finally stoped. I definatly stick to my instincts now. Why i did not listen in the first place, I will never know...
haljo1935
7 months ago
2 comments
Even the most brilliant of people can be fooled by these "companies", so thanks for sharing and reminding us how important research and instinct are. I had a very similar experience in Ft Worth several years ago (judging from the Dallas post today, this is still happening today in the DFW market) that involved door-to-door business telecommunications. They took us to a business park with hundreds of doors and we weren't finished until they'd all been opened! Like Erin, my lunch came early - they want to be sure you have energy to last all day! These people even had official looking name badges with pictures on them. We were to ask the businesses to pull out their last phone bills so we could show them where they were wasting money and how we could save them money by switching to our plan.
Back in the search for a job today, I'm glad to have this fresh reminder as I wade through the ads/offers.
rachelcheriedouglass
7 months ago
2 comments
wow. the same thing happened to me. it's called the "working interview" once i realized what was happening I bailed...lucky we were scouting area's near my home. everyone was shocked that i simply thanked them for their time and walked away. it was pretty crazy.
smjk0629
7 months ago
18 comments
I just this week was talking to some friends about "the day i got kidnapped" on an interview. My situation was very similar and happened years ago when I was fresh out of college. I had gone on a first interview for a Marketing company that seemed normal. I had scoped out their website which was pretty typical ahead of time and was even impressed with the professional atmosphere in their office on my first visit. I was very hesitant when the 20-something man that interviewed me could/would not answer many of the questions that I had prepared. On the drive home from the interview I even spoke with my mother about how uninformative I thought the interview was, but she encouraged me to at least try to remain open to different styles. So when the call for a second interview came I headed back to the same office for what was to be a day working "side by side with an executive". When I entered the office Techno music was blairing and I sat with about 15 other people who were there for the same reason as me. Then a group of 20-something men came into the room in their too tight suites and lead us out to their "sites". I was told to leave my car at their office, that we would drive to their "clients". I was really hesitant about doing this but decided that I should heade my mothers advice. So we piled into a beat up mini van and were driven about an hour out into Newark, NJ (not a nice neighborhood). All during the drive the executives asked questions about what was our motivation in looking for a job (mine was to help others, hence why I had gotten my psychology degree). They then proceeded to tell the interviewees how much money they had, what nice cars they drove, and how prestigious there titles were. They skirted around so many of our questions that I started to get really concerned and asked where exactly we were going. The response was that we were "just around the corner". We pulled into a mall parking lot where like another poster described they got out of the car, changed into sneakers (with suites) and pulled out bags filled with dollar store merchandise and explained that they walked from home to home selling their toys for over a dollar and making a "massive profit". I was furious. Not only was it deceptive, but darn it I was wasting large amounts of my time for door to door toy sales. How I handled it was a little differently then Erin. I very nicely approached the leader of the group and explained that I wanted to be taken back to my car (and the state that I lived in). When he refused I placed one phone call to the company letting them know that my next serious of phone calls would be to the area police, news, radio, and television stations if I was not returned to my car immediately. Immediately the owner let his executive know that we all needed to be returned home. In talking to friends over the last few years I have found that this occurance is all too common and unfortunately takes lots of time out of everyones schedules when they are already trying to balance working and interviewing.
JGirl1331
7 months ago
26 comments
I too have had this type of experience. Thank goodness I can recognize it now within the first 5 minutes. I've actually walked out mid-interview. You get to a point where you can tell that something is off when the caller seems hesitant to discuss the position. If it was a legitimate job, the description would be right out there. I feel bad that young people are being rooked like this.
Daniela
7 months ago
1482 comments
Wow, Naida - that's a creepy comparison. I just read a New Yorker piece on sex trafficking and the way people are deceived. Obviously what happened to Erin is not at the same level, but at it's core, the deception is very similar...
NaidaL
7 months ago
2 comments
I can't believe the author continued on with these people! If it were me, the SECOND I realized their deception, I would have knocked on a door and asked for help. This was a kidnapping, clear and simple. This is the tactic used to entice young victims who later find themselves trafficked in the sex trade!